Interview with photographer Sophie Gerrard

Women chat in recovery ward following successful cataract surgery, AJEH, Bihar, India. Copyright Sophie Gerrard

I came across Sophie Gerrard’s work via a recent article on the BBC News website about an eye hospital in Bihar, India. I was impressed enough to have a dig around on her website and found another interesting project on maternal health. What struck me was the balance in her approach – not overly dramatic and with a positive thread running through it. At times it borders on the minimal, with artistic over-tomes, which will not be to everyone’s taste. However, I liked what I saw so got in touch and Sophie kindly agreed to answer some questions.

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REP – Hi Sophie, your work predominantly focuses on social and environmental issues. What is striking is that rather than emphasize the negative and over dramatize the issue, you take a positive approach. You seem solution orientated. Is this a conscious working method?

SG – For the most part yes, ‘Protectors of Sight‘ is certainly a positive story. The story being told here is of a remarkable rural eye hospital in remote Bihar, India where they are working against all the odds curing the sight of hundreds of people everyday for free. It’s a positive story and it’s one which deserves attention. The hospital there is doing such incredible work. People are generally interested in hearing about it. I think the positive solution part of the story is often what the audience engages with the most. I think to make work which lets an audience know about something new. So in this case, the story of blindness is not new, but the way this hospital is trying to eradicate the issue is very new to most of those who see the photographs. That’s what has got people I meet, talking about the project and the issue of cataract blindness in that part of India, and that’s the whole point.

I’m not a great fan of a photographic or documentary approach which presents an audience with nameless victims and their plight without specific details and specific voices. People are interested in people, facts figures and statistics mean very little until a human face or voice makes us empathise and start to see things from a difference perspective. I think photography and audio can do that. If we hear the voices and thoughts of those affected by the various social and environmental issues I photograph, then I hope that means their story is communicated that little bit more successfully.

Asha Subhash Gabhale, 20, with her two day old baby, Chaphachapada, India. Copyright Sophie Gerrard

REP – You have worked with several NGOs, including your latest project on the Akhand Jyoti Eye hospital in Bihar. What has your experience been like working with charitable organizations, how much say do you have in the tone and focus of the work?
SG – I was very lucky in working with The Savitri Waney Charitable Trust and the Akhand Jyoti Eye Hospital in that their message was very clear to me and straightforward. The organisations were easy to work with, the story I had to tell was, in many ways, quite simple: There are huge numbers of cataract blind people in Bihar, India. The hospital seeks out those blind people and brings them to hospital for surgery, their sight is cured for free.
Before I went to Bihar, the Trust and I discussed how we could approach the story. For instance did I want to tell the story of one individual, one family, did I want to focus on the eye camps, or on the hospital we discussed a few ways of telling the story, and what important points had to be covered and then I was left to it. I was given the luxury of time to spend with the people at the hospital, I was also given time to travel to outreach eye screening camps, to visit blind individuals in their homes and travel with them to the hospital for surgery. I met blind people, stayed with them in their houses, photographed and interviewed them. I traveled kilometres on foot over searingly hot dry river beds and through swollen rivers to see the outreach camps where hundreds of rural people gather to have their eyes screened. I was accompanied and looked after, and basically I was able to photography anything I wanted. I was given no boundaries and there were no limitations.
The story I then edited and put together is the one I wanted to show. Sure, the charity have chosen their images and I have chosen mine, but the whole collection is a thourough and true reflection of that place and that situation. I am very pleased with the way we’ve all been able to work together. The exhibition I am showing of the work, ‘Protectors of Sight’, was entirely curated by me. I chose which images and information I wanted to use to tell the story. The charity helped me with that by sponsoring the exhibition but they have left all creative decisions to me.

AJEH Mastichak, Bihar, India. Copyright Sophie Gerrard

I’ve been lucky enough to work with NGOs and charities who are either very used to working with photographers and can explain clearly what they want what they wish to say and why, or with small charities who are happy to introduce me to their projects and then leave me to it. In every scenario I’ve always felt very supported, and yet at the same time very free to work as I wish and make the pictures I feel I need to make. That for me is a good combination.
REP – Can you tell us a bit about how your work has been used? Much of it looks like it would be used to encourage new donors or feedback to existing ones.
SG – The ‘Protectors of Sight’ exhibition and photographs were used by The Savitri Waney Charitable Trust in order to document the various projects they support. A gallery of my images can be seen on their website. Images from the project have also been used by the hospital to do the same. The photo-film has been used at fundraising events, in the annual newsletter, it has been distributed online and has been featured on the BBC. Previous projects such as ‘E-wasteland‘, have been used by other NGOs. ‘E-wasteland’ was used by Greenpeace International in one of their global campaigns to highlight the dangers of toxic e-waste in workshops and recycling yards in India. I am delighted that my work can be used in these ways.

Acid pollution, Mandoli, Delhi, India. Copyright Sophie Gerrard

REP – Most of your stories are from India. Is this by chance or is there a deeper attraction? How do you find working some where so far from home and so different? How do people react to you?

SG – I’ve always been attracted to India, my parents lived and worked for an NGO working in India and in Pakistan in the 1970s and I’ve always been attracted by that part of the world. I’m perfectly happy working far from home, I enjoy travelling, discovering new places, meeting new people, which photographer wouldn’t. You wouldn’t choose to do this work otherwise. I’m used to being the visitor, the one who is asking questions. Even when I’m working in Scotland and nearer to home that is still the case. It’s up to me to make people feel relaxed around me, and to react well towards me. If I am photographing them over a period of time (which is how I prefer to work – spending time and making work slowly) then it’s in my interest to develop and establish a relationship relatively quickly and to try and gain trust. I am not out to trick anyone or to misrepresent anyone. I ask questions and I am curious, I then try to portray that information in my photographs, with varying degrees of success. I’ve been lucky, I’ve nearly always been welcomed and treated with great generosity and kindness by those who have let me photograph them.

Sindhu gathers her medical box before home visits, Gande, rural Maharashtra, India. Copyright Sophie Gerrard

REP – How did you make the leap from environmental science to photography? Any tips for young photographers starting out on how to carve out a career in photography focusing on social issues?
SG – I started my career as an environmental scientist. After a short while in that job however I knew that I wanted to be the one reporting and documenting the stories we worked on. I had also been travelling in South East Asia around that time and had become obsessed with the work of Don McCullin and the other war photographers in Vietnam. I decided then that I was going to return to art college to study documentary photography. It seemed a logical way to combine what I was most interested in. I then went on to study for an MA in photojournalism and I’ve been working as a docuentary photographer ever since I completed that course. I’m passionate about visual story telling, I feel that if you can catch someone’s attention with something and make them stop and take a second look, then that’s powerful. Someone who inspired me greatly was Tim Hetherington and his early work from Indonesia and also the wall graffitti photographs from Liberia. His visual approach to an abstract form of documentary and story telling using medium format was what led me towards the camera I use. I enjoy the slow process and the discipline of working at a pace which i think for me generates more intimate photographs and details which help tell a story.
In terms of advice, I’d recommend being thick skinned, resilient and driven. Find a subject matter that interests you and find a way to make photographs about it. Be prepared that that might not always be from commissions and jobs. A lot of what I have done has been self initiated and funded through other photography work, or from grants. So, many Charities and NGOs are increasingly looking to reduce their costs and their budgets. Look at work that others are making and be informed.

Community worker during a house visit, Baigau, rural Maharashtra, India. Copyright Sophie Gerrard

REP – What next? Anything interesting in the pipeline?
SG – Right now I’m working on promoting my exhibiton ‘Protectors of Sight’ and trying to find some follow on venues for the work to be exhibited in. I’ve got some plans to show it in Edinburgh, my home town. The Photographers’ Gallery in London are featuring the work in their Print Sales and I’m delighted about that. Project wise I’m working on some new shorter term editorial projects in the UK at the moment and applying for funding. At the same time as trying to do as much editorial work as I can. It’s a slightly difficult balancing act. My current personal work is a project in Scotland looking at land use and protected land. It’s in the early stages but I’m keen to continue it in the next few weeks. My main interests are environmental stories and specifically looking at the human and social impact of environmental issues. It’s time to give those personal stories some more of my attention now and I’m really looking forward to doing that.

Newborn, five days old, Baigau, rural Maharastra, India. Copyrights Sophie Gerrard

‘Protectors of Sight’ – photofilm by Sophie Gerrard

I came across Sophie Gerrard’s work a couple of weeks back when the BBC featured her latest piece on the Akhand Jyoti Eye hospital in Bihar. It is beautiful, positive and inspiring. It does not linger on the negative nor over dramatize the issue. Other work, like ‘The Right to Life’ on maternal health in India, strike a similar tone and are in stark contrast to other rather shrill pieces of work out there in NGO-ville. Take a look at her site here.

Video Volunteers launch ‘SpeakOut India’

Trends come and go, no less so than in social activism circles. There are many organizations talking about people’s ‘agency’ and about using ‘participatory methodology’ (see the explosion in participatory photography as one example).

Many initiatives have questionable motives or outcomes for the rights holders involved. However, one organization that walks the walk as well as talking the talk is Video Volunteers (VV). When I visited their workshop last year I was impressed with the set up. Since then they have gone from strength to strength. Today they launch a television programme, ‘SpeakOut India’, with NewsX.

‘SpeakOut India’ is a half hour weekly program created entirely by poor rural and slum communities trained by VV. The series will air every week, with airtimes of 5:30pm on Saturdays and 11am on Sundays (India). People not able to watch the television broadcasts can watch the live stream at newsx.com.

VV claim that this is the first time a news station is ‘recognizing the poor as legitimate news producers’, not to mention being paid for their news reports by a TV station and being able to voice their issues directly to a national audience.

This is what Jahangir Pocha, NewsX CEO said about the show: “Although many TV channels have broadcast citizen’s journalism programs, ‘Speak Out India’ is the first instance where the entire content is produced by slum and village communities. The communities are not just being heard here, but are producers and therefore, active role-players in the media. We are thrilled to be able to offer a platform for these unique voices to be heard.”

Good luck guys.

Innovation Agents: Interview with Jessica Mayberry, founder of Video Volunteers

The brilliant Video Volunteers getting well deserved publicity in an interview with the organisation’s founder, Jessica Mayberry.

Check out Video Volunteers latest initiative, India Unheard, here.

‘Undesired’ by Walter Astrada & Media Storm

Not quite as good as I had hoped it would be but still worth watching. A little bit too long to be punchy and a little too short to do justice to the complexity of the issue. And despite Media Storms generous array of embeds I’ll be damned if I can get the bloody piece to sit in WordPress…but maybe that’s just me?

The Indian justice system on trial? Don’t worry it will only get a 2 yr sentence…

Bhopal Gas disaster verdict entirely inadequate

Skulls discarded after research at the Hamida Hospital. Medical experts believe that the toxic gas inhaled by the people of Bhopal may have affected the brain. Copyright Magnum Photos.

Indian court convicts top Union Carbide (India) officials. Twenty five years + twenty thousands dead  + 600,000 affected = 2 years in prison. Oh, and fined about $2,000 each. And the math? The sentence was so low due to the charge – ‘causing death by negligence’ – only carrying a maximum of 2 years Meanwhile, Warren Anderson, ex-boss of Union Carbide US continues to live in luxury in the Hamptons. I don’t think this was what these people campaigned for decades for?

Gas victims supported demonstrate at the railway station, 2004. Copyright Magnum Photos.

James Morgan – stories of universality from the margins

A teenage girl goes into a trance and rushes to the ocean during a Balinese-Hindu spirit cleansing pre-nyepi ceremony in Bali, Indonesia. Copyright James Morgan.

I came across the work of James Morgan via the photographs he shot on child trafficking in Nepal and India. Going through his website I was further drawn to his work partly because of the focus on Asia, but also because of his emphasis on compassion and respect for those whose stories he told.

Suitably impressed I decided to track him down (at least by email – the guy travels a lot) in order to get an insight into his working methods. A big thanks to James for taking the time and effort to respond to my questions despite his busy schedule.

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REP: You emphasize in your approach to photography ‘compassion, respect and understanding’ for the people and issues you photograph. Practically, how do you implement such an approach and what do you feel the outcome is for those you picture?

James: I think it all comes down to story telling, being conscious of whose story it is you’re telling and, just as importantly, who you’re telling it to. On the face of it, it’s simply a question of telling your subject’s story in as close to their own voice as possible – but, in reality, it’s a lot more complicated than that. I believe that story telling is as much about creating atmosphere as it is about progressing through a logical series of events. It’s a case of representation through translation. Counter intuitive as it may sound for documentary photography, I find my work hugely subjective and, for me, the space that arises out of that is what constitutes the artistic element. I use photography in the same way as I’d use a paintbrush and I’d like to think that this approach allows me to get closer to the ‘truth’ than a more linear narrative might.

One of Aman's cousins examines the photograph we took to Aman's family. The photograph pictures Aman holding his gymnastics medals. Copyright James Morgan.

Photography is the best way I’ve found to tell the story of people with no voice to an audience of people with no ears. My interest is in people who live at the margins of global society, not just socio-economically but in all senses. I have a tenuous theory that by looking at the fringes of societies all over the world and getting a better understanding of where and how cultures overlap I’ll be able to tap into symbolism and emotions that carry meaning universally. That’s definitely the most touching part of my work – when I notice a hand gesture or a thought pattern that I’ve seen before on the other side of the world or watch kids listening open-mouthed to folk tales that run along the same framework as stories a thousand miles away. So I guess, to answer your question, I hope that by travelling so extensively and working with people at the edges of so many societies, all marginalized for different reasons, I can begin to understand how best to translate people’s stories in a way that more and more people can understand. One aspect I really want to start working on now is creating feedback loops for the people I photograph. Just sending them a newspaper article with their picture and some text in a language they can’t understand isn’t enough, I’d like to come up with a way in which they can directly witness the impact their story is having – although of course it’s difficult, I couldn’t tell you where half the people I photographed this year are now. It’s definitely an area I’d like to see NGOs focusing on more – traditionally the audience of NGO funded photo essays are potential donors but I’d like to start being more creative and enabling the people I work with to be both participants and observers in the stories.

REP: How does your work with NGOs differ from other assignments? At what stage are you brought in, and how much input do your have in the way images are used in the NGOs communications?

James: My work with NGOs doesn’t differ dramatically from other assignments, my style fits well with the needs of NGOs so I can normally photograph and construct narratives in much the same way as I would for editorial assignments. Fortunately NGO budgets haven’t been slashed in the same way as editorial ones have recently, which allows me to spend more time and go deeper into a particular issue. Previously I haven’t had much input into the way NGOs use my images, but as technology evolves and new platforms emerge for disseminating these stories I’m hoping to be able to consult NGOs in distribution as well as production. I’ve been talking recently with a company based out of China who do cinematic projections inside inflatable domes. At the moment the technology is too expensive for most NGOs – but the potential is enormous. Not only can the domes be put anywhere with enough space, the skins of the domes are translucent and so the show can be watched from inside or outside, symbolically coherent with the aims of most NGOs. But there are endless things that could be done with multimedia that are only just starting to happen, it all depends on the NGO in question, all organizations have their own tone for outreach, some prefer more conservative approaches, some appreciate more guerilla style marketing. There are a number of grants springing up at the moment for photographer/NGO collaborations that provide funds to be spent directly on exploring new methods of disseminating social issue photography.

A young Nepali boy who, having got lost and inadvertently crossed the border into India, has wound up in an youth detention center in Bankura, West Bengal. The authorities won't allow us to repatriate stray children without running a paperwork assault course throughout North India. Copyright James Morgan.

REP: You were involved in a project looking at child trafficking in Nepal. How did this come about, how did you approach representing the issue and children (ethical issues, giving ‘voice’, positives/negatives), and how were the photos used by the anti-trafficking organisation?

James: The Project in Nepal was with The Esther Benjamin Trust (ebtrust.org). I was actually on my way to Bhutan to photograph there but got stuck in Kathmandu for a few days. Whilst I was there I read an article by Soma Wadhwa about Nepalese girls living in Mumbai’s notorious red light district. After reading it the entire city [Kathmandu] looked different, I could feel it in the streets, it was really eerie, so I started making some inquiries and shot a few initial images before I left for Bhutan. When the founder of EBT saw the photos he commissioned a month long piece which gave me the freedom to follow the child trafficking trail right down across the border into India. A year later I am still receiving increasingly well-spelt emails from a few of the older children I worked with.

Stylistically I decided to concentrate primarily on portraiture, shooting very few images that alluded directly to trafficking. Contrary to everything you’re supposed to do as a photojournalist, I decided to show these images out of context hoping to create a series of images that represented a group of children rather than a group of trafficking victims.

EBT used the images in promotional material, in print and on the web. I think there was also a gallery exhibition in London and some newspaper articles. As always I feel as though a lot more could be done with the images but it would have to justify diverting time and money into media and away from more immediate concerns which is always a difficult call to make.

Pak Lukas Ayello, who has spent his whole life not more than a hundred metres from the ocean, regales me with Papuan folk tales in Selpeli Village, Irrian Jaya, Indonesia. Copyright James Morgan.

REP: Much of your work is presented as multi-media pieces/photo essays. Do you feel this has opened wider possibilities in story telling than just stills on their own? What in your experience are the lessons both young photographers and NGOs can learn in using multimedia to tell compelling stories?

James: Multimedia is the future of on-line story telling, without doubt. And NGOs are well ahead of editorials in realizing this (or at least budgeting for it!). For NGOs particularly it makes complete sense, the production costs needn’t be much more than traditional stills work. When I work for NGOs now I routinely produce audio, stills and moving images and, when it’s done right, I think it’s an incredibly powerful combination.

Having said that I think the best way to tell a story is to tell it in as many ways as possible. I am starting a project in a few days on the Bajau Laut, a group of semi-nomadic ocean dwellers living off the coast of Sulawesi. For this project I will certainly produce a multimedia piece for onl-ine use but I’ll also do a traditional photo essay with a written article for print as well as a gallery exhibition of a few select images. All these formats tell the story differently and invite you to engage with the material in different ways.

Check out more of James work here.

Women Aloud Videoblogging for Empowerment

For those of you in and around Mumbai next Saturday check out the WAVE screenings from their pan India network of video bloggers. Videos to be screened will include;

Weaving Dreams — Padma, a lady of the Bodo community in Assam, changes her community for the better when she started a weaving society, turning away from their previous occupations of liquor-making. Created by Usha Dewani (4 minutes).

Accused of Witchcraft — A shocking incident reported by Moushumi Basu from Ranchi about a village that ganged up to murder a family they believed to be involved in witchcraft (5 minutes).

Nyida — Nyapi Bomjen shows us a beautiful wedding ceremony of the Galo tribe in Arunachal Pradesh (5 minutes).

Land Rights for Women Farmers — Vandana explores why Women Farmers, who do most of the work in farms, don’t legally own the land (2.5 minutes)

Corruptgarh — Moonstar provides creative commentary about a failed ‘Dhobi Ghat’ policy in Chandigarh, with this humourous, fictional re-enactment (2 minutes).

The Little Ropewalker (Dombari) — Prutha Soman from Thane juxtaposes international gymnasts with a dombari girl’s tightrope-walking technique, posing the question, “Couldn’t we encourage traditional talents such as these, instead of shunning them? (2 minutes)”

Aashayein — Apoorva Shaligram shares the inspiring story of a young social entrepreneur Ramesh Joshi who tutors street kids in Bombay, who live rough lives — some of whose parents are drug dealers (3 minutes).

Cultural Perspectives on Menstruation — Sulochana Pednekar, a community health educator working with Goa’s renowned Sangath NGO, interviews girls from various faiths, who all have a common thread of social restrictions imposed when they have their monthly period (3 minutes).

Date: Saturday June 5, 2010
Time: 6:30 – 9:30 PM
Place: The HUB
4th Floor, Candelar Building, 26 St. John Baptist Road, Near Mount Mary Steps, Bandra (W), Mumbai

RSVP at info@waveindia.org or call us at 9922509310 (Sapna).

WAVE was started last year through an award from the MacArthur Foundation’s Digital Media and Learning competition in the US and is supported by the Bandra-based NGO, Point of View, in India. Visit http://www.waveindia.org to learn more.

In Silence – maternal mortality in India

Human Rights Watch and Magnum combine to produce ‘In Silence‘, an insight into the death of Kiran Yadav after giving birth to her son in Uttar Pradesh. The project looks to highlight the high number of preventable deaths of women in child birth, particularly in India. The multimedia is nominated for an AOL Webby.

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